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Mailbag: Anthropology in transition

Tue, 2010-12-14 21:47 -- John Hawks

Re: Anthropology in transition:

I was alerted by your point on the abandonment of early anthropology. I always thought it was just in Europe, and that America was grounded in Boaz.

Related to this: isn't the concept of "social sciences" a misnomer? There is a lot to study in Anthropology and Psychology (and probably Economics) which not at all social. Calling anthropology 'social' makes a major assumption about the nature of our species, and I would argue, gives undue support to the notion that social and cultural evolution were THE driving forces in human evolution. How, then, can this hypothesis be tested?

Maybe Psychology has been lucky. Although philosophical in origin, it has properly merged with biology and anatomy. There are so many new labels like Cognitive Sciences, Brain Sciences, and especially Neurosciences. Scientifically-based approaches can then fit in, with much less commitment to a particular philosophical theory. However, I don't think this has had a negative impact of the stability of Psychology as a field, but rather made it more generally useful - and perhaps even less obliged to be 'social'.

Is the problem is that Anthropologists are tugging a war over a name, and may fit together more comfortably after creating some new ones?

Truly, much of Anthropology is not social, and arguably most of psychology is not, except insofar as they involve social creatures, not social dynamics. On the other hand, the things that make my kind of anthropology different from biology mostly involve social processes -- otherwise, why am I not simply a biologist?

I had a reply from another reader who was surprised that this is such an issue in the States. She was trained in Russia. I think that the importance of Boas can't be overestimated, and yet so few students actually engage with this history. To be honest, I can't point to many other biological anthropologists in my generation who know, say, Ruth Benedict or Alfred Kroeber, real first generation Boasians.

Will the dispute go away? Sure, the whole thing is about control of resources at the university level. For many of us, it's a non-issue. My primatologist colleagues care a great deal, because to be very honest, no biology departments are hiring primatologists. If there is going to be a dedicated field of primatology in the States, it is going to be grounded in anthropology. So to see "anthropology" pushing away these science approaches, that is a real threat.

I think anthropology works just to the extent that prominent anthropologists are role models for good work. It's sort of like "complexity studies" -- if someone did good work, nobody would question whether there is a real field of study there.

Well, that may not answer your questions, but it's a start!

Mailbag: Neandertal backbreeding

Thu, 2010-09-16 13:07 -- John Hawks

In your blog, you have commented on the prospect of re-creating
a neandertal from a "completed" genome.....I agree with your views
and predictions.

However, given the apparent widespread occurrence of small pieces
of the neandertal genome in contemporary humans, there should be
a large variability in the fraction of each person's genome which he/she
shares with at least the small number of neandertals whose DNA has
been sampled.

And though one could argue that ethics would be trampled, one could
selectively breed exisiting humans to enhance their complement of
neandertal genes. Not that I am suggesting this should be done, but
such breeding could be entirely voluntary, may have already occurred,
and would overcome at least some "Jurassic Park" and Frankensteinian
objections to the enterprise??

You bet -- that's not only plausible in principle, it's exactly what people are trying to do with cattle to backbreed something like aurochsen.

The success (not withstanding the time required) hangs on the distribution of Neandertal variation in the current genome. We don't know yet how clustered it is -- is it a 3 percent average, but people have random parts, or is it that most people share the same 3 percent? If it's more scattered, then a larger representation of the Neandertal genome still exists, distributed among many people; if not, we may not be able to get more than a few percent of a Neandertal by backbreeding.

Mailbag: Zorse pigmentation

Wed, 2010-09-15 20:59 -- John Hawks

Re: Horse-zebra hybrids

I know you saw the picture of the zebra horse in the NYT this morning. Are we SURE that hasn't been photoshopped? I mean, I know it is the NYT, but it makes me thinkk that I don't understand ANYTHING about genetics at all!

Yeah, apparently this particular one is unique.

The stripes come from patterning genes that activate the melanin pathway; the pattern gradient inhibits expression of a gene that synthesizes melanin. White spots occur when a different gene is turned off, on the same pathway. So the two combine -- it's like a palomino that has stripes instead of splotches, I guess.

I have a slide that shows a cattle-bison hybrid with similar spots, like a cow.

Mailbag: The teacher who wouldn't believe in shrinking brains

Wed, 2010-09-15 15:54 -- John Hawks

My son, a student at [redacted university], was recently ridiculed by his professor in class when my son suggested that the human brain has been shrinking for the last 20,000 years (the teacher insists that it has not changed). When my son cited the article in September Discover, he was (somewhat understandably) further ridiculed for such a source. My question is: can you provide me with some links to credible sources for this information? He has started to work on this, but wading through so many sources that mention brain size, etc. has proven difficult. We would appreciate any help you could provide.

Thank you for writing -- that is indeed sad but not surprising; I hear all too often from people who have teachers that can't be bothered to read.

The reduction in brain size during the last 10,000 years is a really well-known fact in anthropology, it is not at all controversial. It is, for example, discussed in the introductory-level textbook that I assign my students. I have attached several papers that include primary data from archaeological or historical samples. In Europe the trend is most clearly documented, because of the large number (many thousands) of skeletons that have been studied, but the trend is also apparent in South Africa, China, and Australia. Some of the papers include many other characters that also changed during the same time span.

We cannot rule out that other locations might have had stasis instead of reduction in brain size, but there is not yet a well-documented example of it.

The most common explanations for a reduction in brain size are (a) diet and the consequent reduction in body size; and (b) warmer Holocene climate. Larger brains are always bad, in that they require more development and time, so what we are looking at in the Holocene is a change in the stabilizing selection -- either an intensification of selection against larger brains, or a relaxation in selection against small brains.

Body size also did get smaller during the past 50,000 years, which gives rise to the question of whether the brain has reduced *more than should be expected* from the reduction in body size. My research indicates that it has done so (this was one topic covered in the Discover article), but I would not say this is yet a consensus view.

Mailbag: Hiding balls

Fri, 2010-09-10 09:57 -- John Hawks

Re: "Darwin hides the ball":

Just catching up on blog reading after summer holidays and came across your posting: Darwin Hides the Ball. For balance I suggest you read and post on the this article from my friend John van Wyhe:

http://darwin-online.org.uk/pdf/2007_MindtheGap_A544.pdf

Thanks for forwarding that reference. Darwin's quote itself doesn't imply he delayed for twenty years, but van Wyhe is quite correct that the later epigraphers make much out of it!

Mailbag: The Neandertal fraction

Tue, 2010-09-07 15:22 -- John Hawks

Re: Neandertal DNA

I have a question about your "Neandertals Live!" entry written on May 8, 2010.

When you say that living non-African populations (ancestry) derive
1-4% of their genomes from Neandertals, does this mean all living
individuals of non-African descent have some genomic contribution from
Neandertals? In other words, could one say if you or myself
specifically have some kind of Neandertal DNA contribution? Or, does
the 1-4% only refer to certain populations outside of Africa, while
nothing can be said about individual non-Africans?

For example, would having Neandertal genes be analogous to certain
populations, like certain ethnicities, having a particular founder
mutation on a haplotype, like sickle-cell anemia in people of African
descent? In other words, some living groups of individuals have them,
but not all living individuals have them?

The comparison results from the greater similarity of European (and other non-African) people to the Neandertal sequence, compared to African people. It takes 1-4% genetic contribution to explain this similarity.

That's an unusual comparison, and it leads to unusual limitations. The number is genome-wide and we don't know (yet) whether some parts of the genome are more consistently Neandertal than others. We also don't know (yet) whether Africans have no Neandertal at all, or just 1-4% less than non-Africans.

We know nothing at all about individuals (at this moment) although I expect we'll be able to say something about the heterogeneity of Neandertal contribution fairly soon.

I expect that some genes will have a very common Neandertal-derived haplotype outside of Africa because of selection, and that these will account for a predominant fraction of the admixture. But I can't say we know this yet empirically.

Mailbag: mtDNA "out of whack"

Fri, 2010-08-20 10:13 -- John Hawks

Re: "Time to revise the mtDNA timescale?":

You said "The timescale of mtDNA divergence is already out of whack with the rest of the genome."

What's the time scale for the rest of the genome? It seems to me it should be expected to be at least twice as much as that for mtDNA since at least half the instances of mtDNA - those in males - dead end each generation. With perfect mixing and replacement, 50% of the mtDNA instances pass from one generation to the next, while 75% of the autosomal instances do. Imperfect mixing and replacement would make both numbers lower, but the mtDNA number would still remain much lower than the autosomal number, so the coalescence time should still be expected to be much lower.

Thanks for noticing that, it's leading to something but I haven't yet described the problem. My apologies for being less than clear.

What you're describing (you probably already know) is commonly described as the "four-times rule" -- the uniparental inheritance and single copy number give mtDNA one fourth the effective size, on expectation, as an autosomal locus.

That's in a constant-sized population. Which of course we haven't been. For around the past 100,000 years, African populations were big enough that genetic drift didn't decrease their genetic diversity markedly. The mtDNA coalesces around 100,000 years before that, compared to more than 700,000 years for the typical autosomal locus -- it's 7 times instead of four. That discrepancy is probably not significant given the huge intrinsic variance of the coalescent. But I don't think it's been seriously investigated.

The real problem is that the out-of-Africa timescale for mtDNA is now very short -- less than 65,000 years -- while the nuclear timescale looks long -- maybe up to 140,000 years. Maybe these can also be reconciled; it's not yet clear. But it's a problem.

Mailbag: Invasive species growth phases

Sat, 2010-08-14 11:27 -- John Hawks

Re: "Lag times in biological invasions:

The initial location of the invasion is not likely to be ideal for the introduced species. Eventually it spreads to an area it is better adapted to and then begins it's growth phase.

Yes, that's one of the environmental reasons for a lag, often people provide the dispersal vector to bring it to the favorable habitat. Sometimes, people bring the habitat to the invader -- pollution abatement programs sometimes come with a blossom of colonizing species. As you'll see I'm more interested in some much longer-term phenomena, where these issues of environmental factors will also include cultural changes.

Mailbag: The capuchin australopithecines

Thu, 2010-08-12 12:20 -- John Hawks

Re: australopithecine tools:

Eh, now that I think about it, your bonus prognostication doesn't seem that outlandish. Capuchins use stone tools. I'll repeat that: capuchins use stone tools. You mention chimp technology, and since we use tools - isn't it logical to assume tool manufacture was a trait of the LCA, therefore anything on the lines from the LCA to both chimps and humans had the capacity to make some sort of tool? Without tools and Isaac-approved butchery sites, the more interesting question remains the same: what happened around Gona's antiquity that made hominins start doing things differently than capuchins and chimps?

Yeah, the bonus is never all that unlikely. I still think somebody will find a robust australopithecine in Asia.

It's the mad persistence of Oldowan (and later Acheulean) that gets me. But then maybe it's not really so different from chimpanzees. Honey extraction, bushbaby spearing, and lots of other things are only at one or two field sites. But termite/ant fishing is everywhere. How do they keep that going? I suppose it's partly innate, or they have an innate bias toward learning it. Maybe Oldowan is like that, so there is a biological trigger supporting stone tools in later australopithecines.

Mailbag: Reference typos

Wed, 2010-08-11 15:48 -- John Hawks

Re: the bibliography announcement:

Thinking about your issues with missing items, typos, and the
bottleneck of your time and attention -- have you thought of wiki-ing
it? Open up entries to editing, open up to new entries, and let an
editor (you) accept or reject. Some true believers may want to add ID
or aquatic apes, but that's what the editor is for -- and for the
rest, only researchers who care are going to fix typos in a
bibliography of paleoanthropology.

It's not a bad idea, but for most of the errors, the utility of a fix is probably zero.

What I actually expect that in the next several years it will be a lot easier to script against an authoritative source (original journal or ISI) and automatically fix things that differ. Journals have been adding DOI to their back catalogs for several years and at some point I will want to add DOI information for every entry. That would be the time for a programmatic fix.

Mailbag: Remembering the books

Tue, 2010-08-10 20:32 -- John Hawks

Regarding "Bubbling through college":

- - - - and can remember which pages are where.

This alludes to something big that goes largely unnoticed, it seems, and about which I have trouble deciding.

In my own 1960s-80s educated brain, the *location* of knowledge is deeply tied my access to and retention of it. Clearly with online learning and e-books, this means of structuring knowledge goes away, and nothing in particular replaces it. I've lost this strong tendency myself -- I no longer remember a fact, for example, even by *where on the page* the text was located.

But does this matter? Is this "ergonomics" of knowledge essential to all human brains, or is it only a trivial habit developed by a few arbitrary generations in the course of history? Does its loss mean knowledge will be less structured in the future, or merely structured in equally useful but different ways?

I still find myself doing this with PDFs, and I can remember well details of grade-school textbooks this way. But I have no knowledge of how common this may be. It seems to me that we may be exploiting an ancestral "geographic" ability, and it harks back to the "method of loci" which has been a trick for remembering things as far back as Roman times. But how natural is it?

There may be many other kinds of tricks that exploit innate brain abilities that wouldn't ordinarily be recruited for narrative information.

Mailbag: Neandertal-human branch lengths

Sat, 2010-07-03 09:50 -- John Hawks

In their recent paper (1, p.13) Prüfer et al. are quite explicit about how they estimate the average divergence age for the human/Neanderthal lineages; assuming no differences in substitution rate, they use:

Age = Hs/(Hs+Cs) D

where:

Hs = human lineage specific changes, i.e. changes that are only seen in human (Neandertal and chimpanzee being equal)
Cs = chimpanzee specific changes, i.e. changes that are only seen in chimpanzee (human and Neandertal being equal)
D = 2 × average divergence between human and chimpanzee in million years

It seems to me that because of the implied sister group relationship between human and Neanderthal, another relatively independent estimate for the same split age could be obtained as:

Age = Ns/(Ns+Cs) D

where:

Ns = Neanderthal lineage specific changes, i.e. changes that are only seen in Neanderthal (human and chimpanzee being equal)

I don't see any mention of this possibility in the paper.
If this alternative estimate is valid, the disagreement between the two age estimates might provide some measure of the uncertainty due to the underlying assumption about equal substitution rates.
Apologies about wasting your time if these are just the faulty reflections of an amateur!

You're correct, this is mathematically equivalent and would work in theory. The practical problem is the large amount of DNA damage and base misincorporations in the Neandertal sequence. At present, roughly 9/10 of the Neandertal-specific changes are actually false positives. This means that the N branch would look artificially long according to the equation you give, because the C-(HN) branch is not similarly affected.

The advantage of looking at the H-specific branch is that any given site has only a 1% chance of a false positive on the N branch. That's an acceptable error rate for estimation of the branch lengths.

In the end, this will be fixed by multiplex coverage. At present, I'm going through the N genome draft to look specifically at areas with multiple reads to find genuine N changes. It's only a small fraction of the genome that we can trust them at present, I'm afraid.

Mailbag: Milk drinking

Fri, 2010-07-02 09:53 -- John Hawks

I read some older posts on your blog about dispersal of lactase persistance world wide. Is it not so that everyone can digest lactose at birth and that the production of the enzyme lactase persists as long as milk consumption persists, whether it is human, goat or cows milk? There is also the matter of pasteurization which kills beneficial bacteria that help digest the lactose. Raw milk is better tolerated than pasteurized milk by all populations wordwide, and as far as I can tell; lactose intolerance is actually an intolerance to pasteurized milk.

Even those who drink pasteurized milk have plenty of beneficial bacteria, but bacterial digestion of lactase in the gut is problematic. The bacteria generate lactic acid and CO2, which in large quantities lead to malabsorption of other nutrients and discomfort.

Malabsorption apparently was not a barrier to early dairying peoples; today pastoralists who rely on milk but do not have lactase persistence tend to ferment or culture the milk in ways that cut lactose content.

The target of selection on lactase persistence was likely energy recovery. Lactose accounts for roughly 30 percent of the calories in milk, and increasing the fraction absorbed was probably highly beneficial, particularly for pregnant and lactating women. But some scientists think that the target of selection was the intestinal effect of lactose-absorbing bacteria, as diarrheal diseases exerted a high mortality risk in preindustrial peoples.

Small amounts of milk will not hurt anyone unless they have a milk allergy, which is a separate issue. Lactase production is universal in infants, children's lactase production declines at an age that varies but is usually late childhood or adolescence.

Mailbag: Parallel knuckle-walkers

Wed, 2010-06-02 16:30 -- John Hawks

Regarding convergent evolution in the great apes, I thought it was well demonstrated that knuckle walking was convergent, because the mechanisms for spinal stabilization are distinctly different between gorillas and chimpanzees - and orangutans, who also use their palms instead of their knuckles.

See for example the following article; figure 26 illustrates how orangutans and gorillas stabilize the spine through locking of different parts of the spinal vertebrae, while figure 28 shows how Pan achieves its stabilization through a system of ilio-lumbar ligaments.

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0001019

Given convergent evolution of similar locomotive behavior, the wrist features almost have to be convergent, and convergent evolution of morphological features in the hips and spine shouldn't be surprising.

You're correct that there's a good argument that the chimpanzee and gorilla forms are non-homologous. I am inclined toward that point of view, also.

However, a lot of people are unpersuaded by those observations. Chimpanzees and gorillas are very different in size, and it would be surprising indeed for them to carry their weight identically in every detail, as their functional requirements are different. So we shouldn't expect them to be identical even if they retain knuckle-walking from a knuckle-walking ancestor. Williams (2010, doi:10.1016/j.jhevol.2010.03.005) argued that independent evolution of the hand and wrist traits supporting knuckle-walking is unlikely given the lack of morphological integration shown by the variation within chimpanzee and gorilla populations. That argument doesn't go too far with me, but it does suggest that the similarities are not an easy parallelism but a hard one for selection to generate.

The orangutan and gibbon convergences carry a lot of weight with me, as it seems clear that the common ancestors of orangutans and the rest of us were quadrupeds. As you mention, that's not a knuckle-walking issue, but goes to limb proportions and lumbar spine function.

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